NO!!! FUCK NO!!! HELL NO!!! NO!!! - OchoCinco to Eagles?!

[MeLLo]

Just saw this on ESPN and I hope the God that it is not true.

Michael Smith was on NFL live and he says he has heard the Eagles have had internal discussions and are interested in one receiver on the market...no not boldin...no not braylon edwards...chad fucking ochocinco (yeah that's his legal name now, so jerseys next year will say "Ochocinco 85" on the back)

what a fucking joke - i'd rather have count dropula (braylon), anquan boldin, or nobody at all over this asshole.

This clown will be horrible here. I don't even want to imagine people walking around with "OchoCinco" Eagles jerseys on. You think people hate us and think we're a joke franchise now, it will only get worse. This is a player I would be ashamed to have here. He's a joke who makes a mockery of the game every time he steps onto the field.

If they trade for this asshole I honestly do not know what I will do. I learned my lesson that I can't give up on the team, but I can not root for Chad OchoCinco.

This is bullshit, and if they trade for this cancer after letting a guy like dawkins go....UGH!

[bengals11891]

I wonder what the Eagles would be giving up.

I read somewhere that Oakland offered Michael Bush and their 2nd rounder

[MeLLo]

Originally Posted by bengals11891

I wonder what the Eagles would be giving up.

I read somewhere that Oakland offered Michael Bush and their 2nd rounder

they have 14 picks - 2 of which are late firsts

even if they trade a first they have the ammo to trade back up into the end of the round or the top of 2

i can't see the cheap eagles giving up a 1st though, and this time i'm actually glad. my guess is a 2nd & a 3rd this year or a 2nd and a conditional pick that could easily become a 2nd next year, throw in a 4th & 5th maybe. who knows, probably a lot of picks.

[Deftoner]

All that reaction for a rumor.

[trainwreck]

Isn't there an Eagles thread? Nothing has happened.

And the Raider rumor of Bush and second is bullshit.

[TyKixx]

Does anyone really think the Eagles will actually trade for an asshole receiver?

I do agree that "OchoCino" is probably the biggest joke in the history of the universe. What a colossal tool.

[bipolarboy]

Originally Posted by trainwreck

Isn't there an Eagles thread? Nothing has happened.

And the Raider rumor of Bush and second is bullshit.

Yeah, it was just a net rumor.

[bipolarboy]

Originally Posted by Deftoner

All that reaction for a rumor.

Eagles fans.

'nuff said?

[MeLLo]

Originally Posted by TyKixx

Does anyone really think the Eagles will actually trade for an asshole receiver?

Yes acutally. I think this front office saw the excitement that adding the other asshole WR (t.o.) generated, and they're arrogant enough to believe that they can control ochostinko this time. Also the eagles are cheap, if they can get stinko cheaper than boldin or count dropula without giving up the roy williams compensation, they'll do it. I posted this rumor because it irks the hell out of me. Also add in that McNabb & Stinko embraced before the infamous tie this season, and when Stinko was holding out he claims it was a call from McNabb that caused him to change his mind and return to the team. It's probably McBitch pushing for this since he threatened the team he would demand a trade or new contract if they didn't add "weapons" for him this offseason.

Chad Johnson attributes changed tune to McNabb
Thu, Nov. 13, 2008

He leaned against a makeshift bar in the ESPN green room before yet another in a seemingly endless string of TV appearances leading up to Super Bowl XLII in Arizona last February, and in an instant, Chad Johnson went from cordial to downright crotchety.

A reporter called Johnson's cell phone to ask about Johnson's repeated demands that the Cincinnati Bengals trade him. Although he had spent the week telling anybody and everybody that he wanted out of Cincinnati, Johnson unleashed a string of obscenities on the reporter, hung up, murmured a few more curse words, and walked out onto the ESPN set, where he again talked about his unhappiness.

You think Lito Sheppard was upset in the off-season after the Eagles signed Asante Samuel to a monster contract? Sheppard had nothing on Ocho Cinco.

As it turns out, Donovan McNabb, that great communicator with wide receivers, helped Johnson adjust his attitude and make peace with the Bengals. Funny how things work sometimes. Johnson said yesterday that it was McNabb who convinced him to at least attempt to be a team-first player, shelve his personal disappointments, and act in the best interest of his teammates and organization.

It was McNabb, whom Johnson called a close friend, who told the volatile and outspoken Johnson to cool it, to rejoin his team, and to play out this season, because, as McNabb apparently told Johnson, millions of people would like to be in Johnson's shoes. A richly gifted athlete playing a kid's sport for big sums of cash? McNabb told Johnson: It can't be that bad, right?

"I blew his phone up," Johnson said yesterday as his 1-8 Bengals prepared to host the 5-4 Eagles on Sunday. "Donovan was a big influence. [He] really is one of the reasons why I really turned myself around and looked at my situation as more of a positive outlook and just thinking about all the people that would love to play this game, you know?

"He took me in that direction, instead of thinking about, 'Oh, I'm tired of losing and I don't want to be here anymore,' but just thinking about, 'Man, a lot of people wish they were in your shoes just to have the ability to play in the NFL.' That kind of turned me around, and that's why I've been as positive as I have been this year, and even though we're losing, man, I've just been plugging away."
Look at what we've learned about the Eagles' veteran quarterback in just the last two weeks. First, McNabb revealed last week that he had never voted, and had never even been registered to vote, before pushing the button for Barack Obama last Tuesday. From an educated, well-read man in his 30s, it was a fascinating revelation. Certainly, some people choose to voice their displeasure with the political system by refusing to vote, and apparently, that was McNabb's choice. At least until Obama.

And now, according to Johnson, McNabb acted as a sounding board and sage to one of the most outspoken, volatile and self-centered wide receivers in the NFL. Johnson isn't exactly humble. He changed his last name, or at least said he did, to Ocho Cinco to reflect his jersey number. (The NFL doesn't recognize the change, although the Bengals do.)

But there was McNabb, who has a bit of a history in dealing with a wide receiver who was trying to blow up a team, trying to calm down Johnson and get him to see the broader picture. McNabb, in a way, kept Johnson from imploding the Bengals.

Yes, Cincinnati is 1-8, but its problems aren't all Johnson's fault. He didn't cause Carson Palmer to have chronic elbow problems that will keep him out against the Eagles and could cause him to miss the balance of the season. Johnson isn't solely responsible for the Bengals' inability to put points on the board, or rush the ball, or gain yards.

Johnson isn't exactly lighting it up this season - only 37 catches for 349 yards and 4 touchdowns - but neither is anybody else.

"It's very frustrating," Johnson said. "I can only speak for myself. I've been very positive and working hard just doing the things that I can to help my offense. . . . I don't have a choice but to stay positive. You know, I was very negative during the off-season, I would say somewhat of a distraction at that point, even though football wasn't going on. So for me, coming back, I think it was in my best interest for myself, for my team, this organization, to be as positive as possible."

Which, apparently, Johnson has done.

McNabb was excused from the Eagles' practice yesterday for personal reasons, so he wasn't available to comment on Johnson. But you can't put it past McNabb, or for that matter Johnson, for trying to lay some groundwork for 2009. Johnson is under contract with the Bengals through 2011, and while they weren't willing to trade Johnson this past off-season, one never knows what will happen after this season.

"I've always been a fan of [McNabb], and especially Philly," Johnson said. "The fans in Philly are the real deal, and that would be a real joy to give them a treat."

So are you back to saying you want to get traded, Chad?

"Oh, yeah. OK. Next question," Johnson said.

[bengals11891]

Well in other news, the Bengals signed Tank Johnson today.

Was he any good for Dallas?

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by bengals11891

Well in other news, the Bengals signed Tank Johnson today.

Was he any good for Dallas?

Not terrible. Did ok, good locker room guy. Got caught up in the house cleaning it seemed.

[cowboykid_8]

Originally Posted by Ronin

Not terrible. Did ok, good locker room guy. Got caught up in the house cleaning it seemed.

I thought he was a good locker room guy too until I found out, on Dallas's website, that he kept blowing assignments and that he was confrontational with coaches when they would try to correct him on the sideline. It also didn't help when he declared that he was a free agent in the locker room right after the Eagle loss. He's a good player, no doubt, but you can't be free lancing on the field because you'll cause more harm than good a la Lavar Arrington.


As for a potential Ocho Cinco trade to the Eagles, good. Maybe, people will now stop talking about the Roy Williams trade.

[bipolarboy]

Originally Posted by cowboykid_8

I thought he was a good locker room guy too until I found out, on Dallas's website, that he kept blowing assignments and that he was confrontational with coaches when they would try to correct him on the sideline. It also didn't help when he declared that he was a free agent in the locker room right after the Eagle loss. He's a good player, no doubt, but you can't be free lancing on the field because you'll cause more harm than good a la Lavar Arrington.


As for a potential Ocho Cinco trade to the Eagles, good. Maybe, people will now stop talking about the Roy Williams trade.

He wasn't the only one who was blowing assignments for your team. Although, and I know this from my team's brief experiment in the 3-4, when the nose tackle free lances, the rest of the defense is fucked. Runningbacks can dance for five yards and not be touched.

[cowboykid_8]

Originally Posted by bipolarboy

He wasn't the only one who was blowing assignments for your team. Although, and I know this from my team's brief experiment in the 3-4, when the nose tackle free lances, the rest of the defense is fucked. Runningbacks can dance for five yards and not be touched.

You'll find blown assignments with any team. What I'm trying to say about Tank is that it was a pretty consistent thing for him and that he wasn't big on being told what to do, so he continued to fuck up.

[bipolarboy]

Originally Posted by cowboykid_8

You'll find blown assignments with any team. What I'm trying to say about Tank is that it was a pretty consistent thing for him and that he wasn't big on being told what to do, so he continued to fuck up.

Yes, but when you have... 6? Five or six Pro-Bowlers on your defense, and they can't stop anyone.... Several somebodies aren't where they're supposed to be on a consistent basis.

I'm not comparing your team to the Browns safeties who routinely were the only two people in the stadium unaware that they were supposed to be playing cover-2, but it was pretty evident last season that more people on your defense read Sports Illustrated than their own playbooks.

[KMoney]

Back to CJ, if there is no attempt in getting Boldin/Edwards/Crabtree/Maclin/Harvin/Heyward-Bey/Nicks Or anyone who can make a significant change I would be more than happy to take Chad Johnson. Not for a 1st rounder though. I still think this rumor will be put to bed soon.

[cowboykid_8]

Originally Posted by bipolarboy

Yes, but when you have... 6? Five or six Pro-Bowlers on your defense, and they can't stop anyone.... Several somebodies aren't where they're supposed to be on a consistent basis.

I'm not comparing your team to the Browns safeties who routinely were the only two people in the stadium unaware that they were supposed to be playing cover-2, but it was pretty evident last season that more people on your defense read Sports Illustrated than their own playbooks.

You act like Dallas had a horrendous defense, when they had a top 10 defense. They would have ranked even higher had it not been for a few stat inflammatory games (Ravens, Eagles 2nd game) and constant shuffling of the secondary due to injury.

[TyKixx]

Originally Posted by KMoney

Back to CJ, if there is no attempt in getting Boldin/Edwards/Crabtree/Maclin/Harvin/Heyward-Bey/Nicks Or anyone who can make a significant change I would be more than happy to take Chad Johnson. Not for a 1st rounder though. I still think this rumor will be put to bed soon.

Would you really even want Harvin or Heyward Bey?

[KMoney]

Originally Posted by TyKixx

Would you really even want Harvin or Heyward Bey?

Yeah I like both of them. I would easily take any of those 7 named above.

[J-Pass]

It has become a tradition this offseason, given the Philadelphia Eagles' wealth of draft picks, that any time any trade-worthy asset is brought up, the Eagles are listed as an interested party.

The tradition continued Wednesday night on "NFL Live," when ESPN's Michael Smith indicated Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Chad Ocho Cinco could be catching passes from Donovan McNabb in 2009. Smith said, "I am hearing there is interest in Chad Johnson. Now there's been some back-and-forth as to whether or not he is officially on the market. I think everybody in Cincinnati has signed off on moving Chad Johnson, except for owner Mike Brown. The Eagles could be in the picture. They have two first-round picks. They need a receiver."

The Eagles have made some key additions to the team via free agency so far -- a sturdy offensive tackle in Stacy Andrews, a surly free safety in Sean Jones and a versatile fullback in Leonard Weaver -- but Ocho Cinco would provide the team with a glamorous offensive weapon both on and off the field that the fan base has not enjoyed since the roller-coaster days of Terrell Owens. In addition, pairing Ocho Cinco with DeSean Jackson and Kevin Curtis would provoke nightmares for secondary coaches around the NFC East.

Nonetheless, there has been some discussion that instead of trading for an established veteran, the team will use some of its many picks to trade up and make a play for Michael Crabtree, Jeremy Maclin or one of the offensive tackles at the top of the draft. This is clearly a more conservative play, especially considering that Ocho Cinco, now tres uno years old, would want a lucrative contract from his new team.