BCS is a better system than what they used to have!

[KBNOTREDAME]

I am tired of so many people ripping apart the BCS on TV and online.

Listen, is it perfect? Absolutely not. But it actually is MUCH better than what college football had 10 years ago.

I am for a +1 system where 4 teams can decide who wins the title, but not much more than that.

If there were a 16-team or 8-team playoff, then the regular season would be less meaningful.

The beauty of college football is that in almost every season (this season excluded because of so many upsets)...EVERY GAME MATTERS. Every week is a playoff.

I know it's not perfect, but it is much better than a lot of people claim and a playoff would be disappointing because it would take away the meaning and impact of each game throughout the season.

[GBPACKERSFAN43080]

Originally Posted by KBNOTREDAME

I am tired of so many people ripping apart the BCS on TV and online.

Listen, is it perfect? Absolutely not. But it actually is MUCH better than what college football had 10 years ago.

I am for a +1 system where 4 teams can decide who wins the title, but not much more than that.


If there were a 16-team or 8-team playoff, then the regular season would be less meaningful.

The beauty of college football is that in almost every season (this season excluded because of so many upsets)...EVERY GAME MATTERS. Every week is a playoff.



I know it's not perfect, but it is much better than a lot of people claim and a playoff would be disappointing because it would take away the meaning and impact of each game throughout the season.

But really is it? LSU can lose the last game of the regular season to a 4 loss Arkansas team and still make it to the Title Game?

But it's robbing us fans. How do you justify a team losing due to a player being injured. Or a team losing due to a referee's call?

A playoff would really make the sport more exciting. A team like Hawaii would have an opportunity to prove themselves.

[bipolarboy]

Originally Posted by KBNOTREDAME

I am tired of so many people ripping apart the BCS on TV and online.

Listen, is it perfect? Absolutely not. But it actually is MUCH better than what college football had 10 years ago.

I am for a +1 system where 4 teams can decide who wins the title, but not much more than that.

If there were a 16-team or 8-team playoff, then the regular season would be less meaningful.

The beauty of college football is that in almost every season (this season excluded because of so many upsets)...EVERY GAME MATTERS. Every week is a playoff.

I know it's not perfect, but it is much better than a lot of people claim and a playoff would be disappointing because it would take away the meaning and impact of each game throughout the season.

Yeah, and if you tell me you have a stomach ache, and I kick you in the nuts, your stomach won't hurt as much.

What a load of horse shit. Are you a BCS plant? Go away before we track you down to tar and feather you.

[M_ARTZY]

KB is absolutely freakin RIGHT!!!! Why would you jump all over the BCS? Am I the only person that remembers 1997 Michigan-Nebraska splitting the title like it was YESTERDAY. Only two undefeated teams and they didnt play. That wouldn't happen today. THE BCS WOULD HAVE PUT THOSE TEAMS TOGETHER. The BCS didn't create the chaos of the voters deciding champions... it was here long before they came. At least they tweaked it a little bit so 1997 wont happen again. Or 1994 with Penn State and Nebraska!!!! Ohio State vs Miami would have never happend with the old system, and that game was friggin beautiful!!!!(Big Ten upset all over mighty Miami.) Florida State-Virginia Tech in 99 worked. Texas and USC WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED BEFORE THE BCS. WHAT WOULD EVERYONE CRY ABOUT THEN??? At least the BCS tried to help.

Also. I believe there could be some tweaks, but I am still NOT for a playoff. 6-6 and 7-5 teams play somewhere. And if it was a playoff? So an 8-team playoff? Hawaii still wouldn't be in it. West Virginia would have missed out. People will bitch no matter what.

BTW, I have been saying this for years, before Auburn in 2004, the split in 2003, and before Nebraska gettin killed by Miami in 2001. I am not just happy that the Illini are in the Rose Bowl.

[Imperial1]

I think this whole every week is a palyoff isa crock because the best teams don't play each other.

[drarcher]

How is this better than what we had before. Does whoever wins the NC game really deserve to be called the NC? The only way you would get my vote that the NC game this year will find the NC is if Ohio State wipes the floor with LSU and USC, Hawaii, and Oklahoma lose.

What if LSU barely eats Ohio State and then Hawaii kicks the crap out of Georgia? Your going to tell me the NC gme really crowned the right team?

What if Ohio State barely gets by LSU or vice versa and USC demoralizes Illinois, a team Ohio State just lost to in their 2nd to last game of the season.

This season has no real champion in my opinion. I hope the AP crowns a split champion again.

[sg207]

It's true that there's really no way it works this year.

But it has worked in some years, and that's better than what we had before.

Personally, I like the 8 team playoff, although Hawaii would need to be in that scenario for this year.

[JustinA407]

Whoever wins the title game deserves to be the champion this year. Hawaii and Georgia are the only teams I could really see halving an arguement to be in the game, so I guess the winner of that game has a little bit of a beef. But when you have a team that couldn't even win their division, much less conference and a team that played only one team that was more than a glorified high school team, it's hard to make a great arguement.

I personally am for the a 4 team or plus 1 format. I might be convinced that eventually an 8 team playoff could work, but I think we would need to plus 1 for awhile to see how that works. I think the real point people make about the BCS is it is an improvement over what we had, now we just need to improve it a little more. What I don't want to get to is something like the NFL were a team could rest their starters in the last week of the season because they are already in the playoff. That is a big joke in sports that very many people don't talk about.

[shaggy13]

i like the idea of a 6 team playoff. its ony 3 weeks long,and only the top 2 teams get a bye so it gives the season meaning.
OF course i think youd have just as much disagreement over who the top 6 teams are as you do the top two teams now.

[bipolarboy]

Originally Posted by JustinA407

Whoever wins the title game deserves to be the champion this year. Hawaii and Georgia are the only teams I could really see halving an arguement to be in the game, so I guess the winner of that game has a little bit of a beef. But when you have a team that couldn't even win their division, much less conference and a team that played only one team that was more than a glorified high school team, it's hard to make a great arguement.

I personally am for the a 4 team or plus 1 format. I might be convinced that eventually an 8 team playoff could work, but I think we would need to plus 1 for awhile to see how that works. I think the real point people make about the BCS is it is an improvement over what we had, now we just need to improve it a little more. What I don't want to get to is something like the NFL were a team could rest their starters in the last week of the season because they are already in the playoff. That is a big joke in sports that very many people don't talk about.

1-AA has a 16 team playoff, and no one seems to be whining about how much better things would be with bowl games.

Come to think of it, in every other sport, both amateur and professional, there is not one single fixture or representative saying, "hey, this playoff (or tournament system) we have sure does suck, let's go to a bowl system."

There's only one damn bowl game that even matters. Who gives a flying shit who wins the Humanitarian bowl besides about half of those teams' fans.


I'm over UGA not being in the national championship game. We didn't play in the SEC championship, we don't deserve a title shot, but I am rather pissed that we have been appointed trash-taker-outer by giving us Hawaii as our BCS opponent when we could've had OU, USC, or even Kansas.

[JustinA407]

Originally Posted by bipolarboy

1-AA has a 16 team playoff, and no one seems to be whining about how much better things would be with bowl games.

Come to think of it, in every other sport, both amateur and professional, there is not one single fixture or representative saying, "hey, this playoff (or tournament system) we have sure does suck, let's go to a bowl system."

There's only one damn bowl game that even matters. Who gives a flying shit who wins the Humanitarian bowl besides about half of those teams' fans.


I'm over UGA not being in the national championship game. We didn't play in the SEC championship, we don't deserve a title shot, but I am rather pissed that we have been appointed trash-taker-outer by giving us Hawaii as our BCS opponent when we could've had OU, USC, or even Kansas.

Well I would say more people care about the Humanitarian bowl than the entire D-1AA playoffs. A lot of what makes college football great is the tradition. I'm not a person that says that is what it is all about, but anybody that says it shouldn't matter and we should just go to a 16 team playoff is not a true fan of the sport if you ask me. 16 teams is way too many if you ask me. Do you really think their are 16 teams this year that have proven they are worth a shot at the NC?

I just think instead of a mass overhaul, we should go to a plus 1 format and see how that works out for awhile. I'm not sure I honestly believe you will ever have more than 4 teams that have a legit gripe about playing for the NC.

[wvette609]

Originally Posted by drarcher

How is this better than what we had before. Does whoever wins the NC game really deserve to be called the NC? The only way you would get my vote that the NC game this year will find the NC is if Ohio State wipes the floor with LSU and USC, Hawaii, and Oklahoma lose.

What if LSU barely eats Ohio State and then Hawaii kicks the crap out of Georgia? Your going to tell me the NC gme really crowned the right team?

What if Ohio State barely gets by LSU or vice versa and USC demoralizes Illinois, a team Ohio State just lost to in their 2nd to last game of the season.

This season has no real champion in my opinion. I hope the AP crowns a split champion again.

So by that logic all the teams that beat Standford would deserve a share if your USC scenario plays out?

Please.

USC lost TWICE. THey're done and don't deserve a sniff at a championship.

[bipolarboy]

Originally Posted by JustinA407

Well I would say more people care about the Humanitarian bowl than the entire D-1AA playoffs. A lot of what makes college football great is the tradition. I'm not a person that says that is what it is all about, but anybody that says it shouldn't matter and we should just go to a 16 team playoff is not a true fan of the sport if you ask me. 16 teams is way too many if you ask me. Do you really think their are 16 teams this year that have proven they are worth a shot at the NC?

I just think instead of a mass overhaul, we should go to a plus 1 format and see how that works out for awhile. I'm not sure I honestly believe you will ever have more than 4 teams that have a legit gripe about playing for the NC.

Ever notice that tradition is almost always an excuse for doing something wrong?

[Luffsta]

Originally Posted by JustinA407

Well I would say more people care about the Humanitarian bowl than the entire D-1AA playoffs. A lot of what makes college football great is the tradition. I'm not a person that says that is what it is all about, but anybody that says it shouldn't matter and we should just go to a 16 team playoff is not a true fan of the sport if you ask me. 16 teams is way too many if you ask me. Do you really think their are 16 teams this year that have proven they are worth a shot at the NC?

I just think instead of a mass overhaul, we should go to a plus 1 format and see how that works out for awhile. I'm not sure I honestly believe you will ever have more than 4 teams that have a legit gripe about playing for the NC.

My team is actually playing in the Humanitarian Bowl and I could care less about what happens in that Bowl. When your team is 7-5 and playing on the Blue Turf this has not been a good year on the Gridiron. I am more interested in watching Appalachian State try to 3 peat than whether or not my team wins on the blue Turf. Hell at this point it is almost embarrassing that my team is playing in the Humanitarian Bowl. If it wasn't then you guys wouldn't have mentioned it as an example. Will I watch it? No doubt but that doesn't mean I am excited about it.I think we need a Final 4 format. You could use the winners of the BCS Bowls to determine that field of 4. I just wrote up this huge diatribe as to how to correct the BCS. Unfortunately the server went down before I could post it.

[bipolarboy]

Originally Posted by Luffsta

My team is actually playing in the Humanitarian Bowl and I could care less about what happens in that Bowl. When your team is 7-5 and playing on the Blue Turf this has not been a good year on the Gridiron. I am more interested in watching Appalachian State try to 3 peat than whether or not my team wins on the blue Turf. Hell at this point it is almost embarrassing that my team is playing in the Humanitarian Bowl. If it wasn't then you guys wouldn't have mentioned it as an example. Will I watch it? No doubt but that doesn't mean I am excited about it.I think we need a Final 4 format. You could use the winners of the BCS Bowls to determine that field of 4. I just wrote up this huge diatribe as to how to correct the BCS. Unfortunately the server went down before I could post it.

Exactly!

The games don't matter.

Here are a list of things that are more exciting at the moment in college football than 2nd and 3rd tier bowl games:

1) Coaching Carousel
2) Which Juniors will declare
3) Recruiting

[GBPACKERSFAN43080]

Originally Posted by wvette609

So by that logic all the teams that beat Standford would deserve a share if your USC scenario plays out?

Please.

USC lost TWICE. THey're done and don't deserve a sniff at a championship.

But so has LSU...

[KBNOTREDAME]

Originally Posted by GBPACKERSFAN43080

But so has LSU...

But not to STANFORD. LSU's 2 losses were to UK and Arkansas, both of which are solid teams. And both were in Double OT, so its not like they were clearly outplayed in any game.

LSU and OSU are the 2 best teams in the nation and BOTH deserve to play for the national title this season.

[JustinA407]

Originally Posted by bipolarboy

Exactly!

The games don't matter.

Here are a list of things that are more exciting at the moment in college football than 2nd and 3rd tier bowl games:

1) Coaching Carousel
2) Which Juniors will declare
3) Recruiting

In general you guys are probably right. I wonder if the people at Indiana feel the same way....

[bipolarboy]

Originally Posted by JustinA407

In general you guys are probably right. I wonder if the people at Indiana feel the same way....

People in Indiana don't have feelings. They used to, but Bobby Knight choked it out of them.

[bipolarboy]

Why can't there be a 16 team tournament for the also-rans?

Like the NIT in basketball?