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06-29-2007, 07:15 AM
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Probably will not even see Yue or Gasol for a year or two, if ever.
I like the Crittenton pick. Crittenton lacks some basic PG skills. That matters a lot on most teams but not as much in the triangle. Crittenton is big and strong, he can defend, and he can hit threes so he fits the triangle. Of course if Phil ends up leaving we are going to really need a coach to teach Crittenton how to play the position. He has a lot of upside, so if he can actually learn some of the skills he can be a good player for us regardless of system. Maybe we can move him to SG if we have to in the future.
His upside was probably the highest of the remaining players in the draft.
| What basic point guard skills is Creittenton missing? He handles the ball pretty well with both hands & is a decent passer. Crittenton got better and better as the year went along last year. His turnovers were cut down drastically over his last 15 games. I think the lakers will eventually (4 years from now) have landed the best NBA PG in this draft. Conley will be good but a big PG like Crittenton will thrive in the NBA game.
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Luke Walton reached agreement Sunday with the Los Angeles Lakers on a six-year, $30 million contract after general manager Mitch Kupchak placed a call one minute after midnight to express the team's interest in retaining its best unrestricted free agent.
"They called at the earliest possible moment, and we worked on it all day," agent Lon Babby said. "They wanted him back, and Luke wanted to be there. We wanted to make every effort to get an agreement before we went out and looked at any other teams."
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A little pricey for Luke.
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A little pricey for Luke.
| It is, but it has come down too. Good, but not great players get the max and average players get the MLE.
There are very few 'good' signings allowed with the way the CBA is structured these days.
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Solid signing, although the length is a bit more than I would have liked. I assume since he's re-signing that means it isn't using the MLE?
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Solid signing, although the length is a bit more than I would have liked. I assume since he's re-signing that means it isn't using the MLE?
| Yup. They still have their MLE.
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Originally Posted by trainwreck |
Probably will not even see Yue or Gasol for a year or two, if ever.
I like the Crittenton pick. Crittenton lacks some basic PG skills. That matters a lot on most teams but not as much in the triangle. Crittenton is big and strong, he can defend, and he can hit threes so he fits the triangle. Of course if Phil ends up leaving we are going to really need a coach to teach Crittenton how to play the position. He has a lot of upside, so if he can actually learn some of the skills he can be a good player for us regardless of system. Maybe we can move him to SG if we have to in the future.
His upside was probably the highest of the remaining players in the draft.
| What basic point guard skills is Creittenton missing? He handles the ball pretty well with both hands & is a decent passer. Crittenton got better and better as the year went along last year. His turnovers were cut down drastically over his last 15 games. I think the lakers will eventually (4 years from now) have landed the best NBA PG in this draft. Conley will be good but a big PG like Crittenton will thrive in the NBA game.
| Holds onto the ball too much and is often late with his passes and does not make the correct pass often enough. He has to work on his passing.
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Update: The Lakers are reportedly high on acquiring the free-agent Blake, according to the Los Angeles Times.
Recommendation: The Lakers are in desperate need of a point guard, especially with the free agency departure of Smush Parker. The Lakers have the mid-level exception available, and could offer Blake a deal up to five years and $30 million.
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Update: The Lakers are reportedly high on acquiring the free-agent Blake, according to the Los Angeles Times.
Recommendation: The Lakers are in desperate need of a point guard, especially with the free agency departure of Smush Parker. The Lakers have the mid-level exception available, and could offer Blake a deal up to five years and $30 million.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...e&type=fantasy | | Do they have any interest in Steve Francis? If given the opportunity
Francis
Kobe
Walton
Odom
Bynum
could be a pretty solid team although they probably wont get anything higher than the 6 seed.
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07-02-2007, 06:34 PM
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Update: The Lakers are reportedly high on acquiring the free-agent Blake, according to the Los Angeles Times.
Recommendation: The Lakers are in desperate need of a point guard, especially with the free agency departure of Smush Parker. The Lakers have the mid-level exception available, and could offer Blake a deal up to five years and $30 million.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...e&type=fantasy | | Do they have any interest in Steve Francis? If given the opportunity
Francis
Kobe
Walton
Odom
Bynum
could be a pretty solid team although they probably wont get anything higher than the 6 seed.
| The more likely scenario is Francis going to the Clippers. Due to Sam Cassell's age and Shaun Livingston's injury, Francis would be a scorer off the bench for the team and split the point guard play with Cassell. In addition, Francis would be familiar playing with Cuttino Mobley, who was his backcourt mate in Houston and Orlando.
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Originally Posted by ThomasTomasz |
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Originally Posted by kofanis0880 |
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Originally Posted by ThomasTomasz |
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Update: The Lakers are reportedly high on acquiring the free-agent Blake, according to the Los Angeles Times.
Recommendation: The Lakers are in desperate need of a point guard, especially with the free agency departure of Smush Parker. The Lakers have the mid-level exception available, and could offer Blake a deal up to five years and $30 million.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...e&type=fantasy | | Do they have any interest in Steve Francis? If given the opportunity
Francis
Kobe
Walton
Odom
Bynum
could be a pretty solid team although they probably wont get anything higher than the 6 seed.
| The more likely scenario is Francis going to the Clippers. Due to Sam Cassell's age and Shaun Livingston's injury, Francis would be a scorer off the bench for the team and split the point guard play with Cassell. In addition, Francis would be familiar playing with Cuttino Mobley, who was his backcourt mate in Houston and Orlando.
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Right now I'd rather have Parker resign then even consider Francis. He's a cancer and ballhog who will never help a team win anything. I guess I'm still bitter about the trade demand he made when he was with the Grizzlies. I'd love for the Lakers to get Blake, he's a true pg who passes first and has a decent shot.
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I disagree. Francis is a head case, but the Lakers need to pull out all the stops to be successful next season. With the Blazer buyout, you could sell him on playing for cheap and still have room to manuever in free agency. Get him to take the LLE and use the MLE on Mikki Moore or Joe Smith or somebody. Sure it's a longshot, but why not try? Remember that Francis routinely averaged 6-7 APG in Houston and took about 16 shots a game. The shooting number is a bit excessive, but he clearly has the ability to pass well. Blake would a safer pickup, but Francis is capable of much more. The Lakers can't afford to play it safe.
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Originally Posted by ThomasTomasz |
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Originally Posted by kofanis0880 |
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Originally Posted by ThomasTomasz |
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Update: The Lakers are reportedly high on acquiring the free-agent Blake, according to the Los Angeles Times.
Recommendation: The Lakers are in desperate need of a point guard, especially with the free agency departure of Smush Parker. The Lakers have the mid-level exception available, and could offer Blake a deal up to five years and $30 million.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...e&type=fantasy | | Do they have any interest in Steve Francis? If given the opportunity
Francis
Kobe
Walton
Odom
Bynum
could be a pretty solid team although they probably wont get anything higher than the 6 seed.
| The more likely scenario is Francis going to the Clippers. Due to Sam Cassell's age and Shaun Livingston's injury, Francis would be a scorer off the bench for the team and split the point guard play with Cassell. In addition, Francis would be familiar playing with Cuttino Mobley, who was his backcourt mate in Houston and Orlando.
| That's where I think he will go too as Cuttino is his best friend and he is still an exciting player can still contribute. I think if the Clippers show interest the Lakers may try to pry him away, since they will probably fighting for the 6,7,8 spot.
But Yankeesuck quickly shot down that notion.
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EL SEGUNDO, Calif. (AP) -- The Lakers have a new young point guard and might be interested in bringing back one of their old point guards to give the rookie some guidance.
The Lakers took Georgia Tech's Javaris Crittenton with the 19th overall pick in the NBA draft last week -- the second straight year they've gone for a point guard in the first round. But they're in search of a veteran at that position, and Derek Fisher, who won three championships with the Lakers, is a possibility.
"We're looking around. Free agency is one way to address it. A trade is another way," general manager Mitch Kupchak said Tuesday after Crittenton was introduced at a news conference at Lakers headquarters.
The Utah Jazz agreed to release Fisher from his contract Monday so he can concentrate on finding the best care for his 11-month-old daughter, who has cancer in her left eye.
"Yesterday is a new development that will be addressed as well," Kupchak said. "We don't know what Derek's intentions are. I really have not sat down and addressed the Lakers' needs in regard to Derek. Our prayers and best wishes are with Derek and his family."
Fisher said he wants to live in one of the six or seven cities being considered for Tatum's care. He didn't rule out playing for another NBA team, but emphasized that his daughter's health is his No. 1 priority.
Fisher played his first eight NBA seasons with the Lakers before signing as a free agent with Golden State after the 2003-04 season. The Warriors later traded him to Utah.
Both Fisher and Kobe Bryant began their careers in 1996, and they were close during their eight years as teammates.
Crittenton, a 6-foot-5, 198-pounder who turns 20 on New Year's Eve, averaged 14.4 points, 3.7 rebounds, 5.8 assists and 2.0 steals in his one season at Georgia Tech.
"That one year I spent at Georgia Tech made me a better player, a better person," he said. "I'm confident. I feel like I have a lot to learn. This is a great organization to help me become a better player."
"You think of all the great players who have played for this organization -- from Magic (Johnson) to Kobe. I hope to play with Kobe. I hope whatever they need to keep him happens. I feel like I can get him the ball."
Bryant has expressed a desire to be traded, but the Lakers don't appear interested in granting his wish.
The Lakers signed Crittenton after the news conference, and he'll play with their Summer League team this month in Las Vegas. According the NBA's collective bargaining agreement, Crittenton's deal is guaranteed for two years, with team options for the third and fourth seasons. He will earn $1.071 million as a rookie and $1.151 million in his second year.
Crittenton spoke briefly with Lakers coach Phil Jackson before meeting with the media.
"He's a legend. He coached Michael Jordan. He's coaching Kobe right now," Crittenton said.
When told Jackson was known to be tough on rookies, Crittenton replied: "That's fine with me. He's only going to make me a better player."
Crittenton was accompanied by his mother, Sonya Dixon, and 8-year-old sister, Shaniya Lee.
"I'm very excited," Ms. Dixon said. "I've never been to Los Angeles. I love Kobe, I love Phil Jackson. I think he's going to do well here.
"This is a perfect place for my son. He's a good kid. He's very competitive. Once he sets his mind to what he wants, he usually gets there."
Crittenton's mother said she planned to move to Los Angeles for at least a year "and get him adjusted."
Asked what advice his mother has given him, Crittenton replied: "Just to work hard, do all the things I've done to get me here, not be distracted by women, bright lights."
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Francis is a cancer, no thanks. He's a guy who needs to dominate the ball to be effective and is a terrible shooter and defensive player.
I wouldn't go as far as saying I'd rather have Smush, but I would rather play Farmar.
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Francis is a cancer, no thanks. He's a guy who needs to dominate the ball to be effective and is a terrible shooter and defensive player.
I wouldn't go as far as saying I'd rather have Smush, but I would rather play Farmar.
| At least Smush can play decent defense and doesn't hog the ball.
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Francis is a cancer, no thanks. He's a guy who needs to dominate the ball to be effective and is a terrible shooter and defensive player.
I wouldn't go as far as saying I'd rather have Smush, but I would rather play Farmar.
| At least Smush can play decent defense and doesn't hog the ball.
| Smush plays decent defense?? I don't know which Lakers you were watching the last two years, but Smush's on ball defense was terrible. He got some steals (mostly from picking off bad passes), but he let opposing PGs blow by him. He took awful risks instead of staying in front of his man and forcing the guy to actually beat him. Smush was one of the main reasons the Lakers gave up a huge opposing PPG.
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Originally Posted by _illapeeno |
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Francis is a cancer, no thanks. He's a guy who needs to dominate the ball to be effective and is a terrible shooter and defensive player.
I wouldn't go as far as saying I'd rather have Smush, but I would rather play Farmar.
| At least Smush can play decent defense and doesn't hog the ball.
| Smush plays decent defense?? I don't know which Lakers you were watching the last two years, but Smush's on ball defense was terrible. He got some steals (mostly from picking off bad passes), but he let opposing PGs blow by him. He took awful risks instead of staying in front of his man and forcing the guy to actually beat him. Smush was one of the main reasons the Lakers gave up a huge opposing PPG.
| I didn't say he was All first team defense, at least he plays better defense then Francis even Farmar.
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Totally agree with m2k989 about Smush's defense.
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Originally Posted by _illapeeno |
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Originally Posted by m2k989 |
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Francis is a cancer, no thanks. He's a guy who needs to dominate the ball to be effective and is a terrible shooter and defensive player.
I wouldn't go as far as saying I'd rather have Smush, but I would rather play Farmar.
| At least Smush can play decent defense and doesn't hog the ball.
| Smush plays decent defense?? I don't know which Lakers you were watching the last two years, but Smush's on ball defense was terrible. He got some steals (mostly from picking off bad passes), but he let opposing PGs blow by him. He took awful risks instead of staying in front of his man and forcing the guy to actually beat him. Smush was one of the main reasons the Lakers gave up a huge opposing PPG.
| I didn't say he was All first team defense, at least he plays better defense then Francis even Farmar.
| Well, you wrote that his defense was "decent", and I was contending that point. Now I'd like to contend the point that he plays better defense than Farmar. I think it's safe to say that Farmar had a greater role in defending Steve Nash in this year's playoffs than Smush did, and that Smush had the primary responsibility of Nash in the 2006 playoffs. In this year's playoffs, Nash's shooting % was only 43, compared to 48 in the Spurs series and the regular season. He also averaged about 4 turnovers a game, up from his usual 3. Yes, he became more of a facilitator as a result, but you can't blame his defender for giving up a pass. The 2006 playoffs were huge for Nash; and his shooting numbers went up largely at the expense of the Lakers. It's impossible to give anything exact without re-watching, but I think it's fairly clear that Farmar played tougher D on the league's best PG than Smush did. As for Francis, it's been awhile since I watched him regularly, so I don't know if he's as bad defensively as Smush. But I know when he tries he's much better offensively, as a passer and a shooter. I'd rather have Fisher, but I'll take Francis.
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