2009 NBA Free Agency

KMoney · #21 07-01-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LivinginNegadelphia

This is one of the reasons the NBA is 4th out of the 4 major sports in my book:

The NBA is an unforgiving place, a league in which a wrong draft choice or a bad free-agent signing can relegate a franchise to oblivion for a decade. The stagnation is very real: In the last 30 years, just eight franchises have won NBA titles. The Lakers won nine, the Bulls six, the Celtics and Spurs four each, and the Pistons three. Houston won two, while the 1983 Sixers and 2006 Miami Heat are the only one-and-done franchises.
In 30 years.

Whats the 4th big sport? I only ever hear the big 3, NFL NBA MLB. I'm assuming you mean NHL, which is just silly, more than half the playoff games weren't even on tv!

TyKixx · #22 07-02-2009, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KMoney

Whats the 4th big sport? I only ever hear the big 3, NFL NBA MLB. I'm assuming you mean NHL, which is just silly, more than half the playoff games weren't even on tv!

For what it is worth, from my experiences, NHL fans generally seem to be more loyal and faithful than NBA fans.

Saltn4dollars · #23 07-02-2009, 02:41 AM

Lebron met with Artest last night in LA. The Cleve media is saying Artest and Ariza are the next targets...

mason54 · #24 07-02-2009, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Saltn4dollars

Lebron met with Artest last night in LA. The Cleve media is saying Artest and Ariza are the next targets...

I'm not sure how I feel about Ariza, but I would love Artest.

Houston Sooner · #25 07-02-2009, 03:57 PM

So will Wallace sign with the Celtics??

Saltn4dollars · #26 07-02-2009, 04:10 PM

Shaq was introduced in Cleveland today and pulled out this photo of him and Ferry... lmfao... The motto...

"Win a Ring for the King"...

_illapeeno · #27 07-02-2009, 04:13 PM

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Artest To Sign With Lakers

Ron Artest has told Ken Berger of CBSSports.com that he will sign with the Los Angeles Lakers. "I'm definitely going to L.A. -- to sign, yeah," Artest said in a phone interview. "Lakers, Lakers, Lakers. I'm in L.A. right now."
Artest said he met with Lakers owner Dr. Jerry Buss Thursday and previously had spoken with Lakers coach Phil Jackson. He was en route to his financial manager's office, where he planned to huddle on the phone with his agent, David Bauman, to finalize details.
The parameters of the deal still need to be agreed upon, however.
"I don't really care about the money," Artest said. "I'll play there for nothing. ... L.A. was very interested in me, and they got me."

Bye bye Odom/Ariza.

Saltn4dollars · #28 07-02-2009, 04:15 PM

damn it... I guess we settle for ariza...

ACC Rulez · #29 07-02-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Houston Sooner

So will Wallace sign with the Celtics??

Hearing there are at least 4 teams bidding for Sheed's services, with the Celtics on top right now becuase of the full court press put on by KG and co. Then the Spurs are right behind them. I have heard the Magic and the Cavs were interested, but those teams seemed to have moved on right now.

_illapeeno · #30 07-02-2009, 05:07 PM

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Artest says he's leaving Rockets for the Lakers 18 Million for 3 years.

Free-agent forward Ron Artest says he's leaving the Houston Rockets to join the Los Angeles Lakers.

Artest
In a text message to ESPN.com on Thursday night, Artest wrote: "I am happy to say I am goin' to L.A."
ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard reports that Artest and the Lakers have reached a verbal agreement on what is believed to be a three-year contract worth an estimated $18 million. Wednesday is the first day free agents are permitted to sign new deals.
Artest's decision was first reported by CBSSports.com. The mercurial swingman was initially courted by the Cleveland Cavaliers.
In his text message, Artest said that he met Thursday with Lakers owner Jerry Buss and had spoken to coach Phil Jackson about the move to Los Angeles, where Artest has been spending his offseasons.
Artest's forthcoming arrival strongly suggests that unrestricted free agent Trevor Ariza -- who played such a pivotal run in the Lakers' championship run -- is bound to leave the team. Broussard reported Wednesday that, according to sources with knowledge of the negotiations, Ariza was likely to leave the Lakers for a new team because L.A. was reluctant to sign him to a contract starting above the league's $5.6 million mid-level exception, even after Ariza's postseason success.
Ariza has been courted by numerous teams, including Cleveland, and met Thursday in Las Vegas with Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey to possibly swap spots with Artest.

Lakers and Spurs in the West Finals? Magic and Cavs in the East?

_illapeeno · #31 07-02-2009, 07:01 PM

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Ariza verbally commits to Houston

Trevor Ariza has made a verbal commitment to sign with the Houston Rockets, according to sources close to the process.
The 6-foot-8 Ariza averaged 8.9 points, 4.3 rebounds and 1.8 assists for the Lakers last season, which ended with the NBA championship.
With at least five teams pursuing Ariza, the Lakers appeared unwilling to pay him more than the $5.6 million mid-level exception.
Marc Stein is a senior NBA writer for ESPN.com.

Essentially the Lakers traded Ariza for Artest. IMO the Rockets are the worst place for Ariza to sign with. Without Yao or Tmac and Artest he'll be depended upon to create for himself and play lock down d. I don't think Ariza is at that level yet he could blossom as the second option on the Rockets. Or he could end up like Turiaf. Best of luck to Ariza.

Houston Sooner · #32 07-02-2009, 08:47 PM

Looks like Marcin Gortat to the Dallas?? Not sure why because they are goiong no where!!

KMoney · #33 07-03-2009, 07:06 AM

Allen Iverson Possibly to the Bulls?

Gordon revisited: Sign-and-trade for Iverson? - CBSSports.com

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Ben Gordon to the Pistons is a done deal. The method by which he will get there is still under discussion.

CBSSports.com has learned that the Bulls and Pistons may yet revisit Detroit's agreement with Ben Gordon and instead investigate a sign-and-trade that would send Allen Iverson to Chicago.

Discussions have not yet reached the highest levels of both organizations, but the revised look at how Gordon goes from Chicago to Detroit would benefit Gordon and the Bulls. Gordon would get an extra year, and thus more money, by signing with the Bulls and getting traded. The Bulls, who currently are getting nothing for losing him, would get Iverson -- a fading future Hall of Famer who would get to finish his career in a major market as long as he's willing to accept a secondary role.

It's a farfetched scenario, and not everyone involved would be on board -- particularly the Pistons. The major sticking point would be how to sweeten the deal for Detroit, which would only consider such an option if it would provide significant cap savings. The Pistons took themselves out of the 2010 free-agent sweepstakes by agreeing to terms with Gordon and Charlie Villanueva on the first day of the free-agent negotiating period. Those agreements are not binding until July 8, when the league-mandated moratorium is lifted and the league and players association agree on the salary cap and luxury tax for the 2009-10 season.

A person familiar with the situation said the Pistons would flat-out refuse to entertain a sign-and-trade for Gordon unless it provided significant savings. The Bulls, too, may not be eager to do business with Gordon, whose agent did not give the team a chance to match Detroit's offer.

The Bulls also would want to know that Iverson, 34, would be totally committed despite not making the $20 million he's accustomed to and without playing the primary role he enjoyed for his entire career until he was traded to the Pistons for Chauncey Billups last season. Iverson did not adapt well to diminished minutes with the Pistons, and late in the season vowed to retire before he would come off another team's bench.

But Iverson apparently is invigorated by the prospect of getting past the Detroit experience. He wrote on his Twitter account Thursday, "For those of you who thought that I was done, think again! ... My only preference will be to play for a coach that knows what I bring to the table and that I am going to bring it every night."

It has been widely speculated that Iverson would land in Charlotte with his former coach, Larry Brown, with whom he had a rocky relationship in Philadelphia. But the two men respect each other, and Brown recently gushed about his time coaching Iverson. Beyond teams with cap space (Memphis, Oklahoma City, Sacramento) who wouldn't be interested in signing a veteran like Iverson, the options for A.I. are limited to sign-and-trades and, more likely, a deal for the mid-level exception or less.

While the sign-and-trade scenario with Detroit is farfetched, Iverson is exploring all options to find one more landing spot in an often tumultuous but Hall of Fame career.

Atlsportfanz · #34 07-03-2009, 08:43 AM

why would they have to sign-and-trade for iverson? He's a FA right so they could just sign him outright. Boy what shoddy journalism.

m2k989 · #35 07-03-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Atlsportfanz

why would they have to sign-and-trade for iverson? He's a FA right so they could just sign him outright. Boy what shoddy journalism.

Bulls are over the (likely) cap. If they want to give Iverson more than the MLE, then they re-sign the guy who's their own free agent (Gordon) then trade him to Detroit for Iverson, who will have signed a similar deal.

What I don't get is why the deal works from a basketball standpoint. On one hand, if I'm Chicago, I like the idea of using Iverson as a shooting guard with Derrick Rose running the point. But isn't getting rid of Kirk Heinrich a bigger priority? Since Detroit very much can afford to sign Gordon without a trade, why would they do Chicago a favor?

S2000ManiaC · #36 07-03-2009, 11:29 AM

putting iverson on your rival team makes that team worse.

its not really a "favor" that detroit is doing.

KMoney · #37 07-03-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by m2k989

Bulls are over the (likely) cap. If they want to give Iverson more than the MLE, then they re-sign the guy who's their own free agent (Gordon) then trade him to Detroit for Iverson, who will have signed a similar deal.

What I don't get is why the deal works from a basketball standpoint. On one hand, if I'm Chicago, I like the idea of using Iverson as a shooting guard with Derrick Rose running the point. But isn't getting rid of Kirk Heinrich a bigger priority? Since Detroit very much can afford to sign Gordon without a trade, why would they do Chicago a favor?

With Gordon now officially gone the bulls will keep hinrich. He has a favorable contract. He's going to be their 6th man and solid back up guard now.

PG - Rose
SG - Salmons
SF - Deng
PF - Tyrus Thomas
C - Noah
6 - Hinrich
7 - Miller
8 - James Johnson
9 - Tim Thomas
10 - Taj Gibson
11 - Aaron Gray
12 - Jerome James

They lost a good amount of depth at the trade deadline. I don't see Iverson happening.

KMoney · #38 07-03-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by S2000ManiaC

putting iverson on your rival team makes that team worse.

its not really a "favor" that detroit is doing.

I don't know I think Iverson can have an all star year depending where he goes. Memphis would work out for him because they could use some scoring to help out Gay.

S2000ManiaC · #39 07-03-2009, 01:10 PM

Hedo Turkoglu, Portland Trail Blazers reportedly agree to terms - NBA - SI.com

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- Hedo Turkoglu has reportedly agreed to join the Portland Trail Blazers after helping Orlando reach the NBA finals this season.
ESPN.com on Friday cited unidentified and did not disclose terms. Turkoglu's agent, Lon Babby, did not immediately return calls or e-mails. Portland cannot comment on the agreement until Wednesday, when teams may sign free agents.
The 6-foot-10 forward arrived in Portland on Thursday to meet Blazer executives and tour the city.
He opted out of his Orlando contract last week when the team acquired Vince Carter from New Jersey. Turkoglu was due $7.3 million next season in the final year of his $36 million, six-year deal with Orlando. He averaged 16.8 points and 5.3 rebounds last season.

That's pretty big signing if true. that gives portland a big 3 of roy, alridge and turk. add in an improved oden. this team will be solid.

another few years of rudy Fernandez coming off the bench.. some rumors that he was pissed and might bolt to spain.
they have a logjam at sf, w/ turk, outlaw, batum, and Fernandez. i guess rudy can backup roy.

m2k989 · #40 07-03-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KMoney

With Gordon now officially gone the bulls will keep hinrich. He has a favorable contract. He's going to be their 6th man and solid back up guard now.

PG - Rose
SG - Salmons
SF - Deng
PF - Tyrus Thomas
C - Noah
6 - Hinrich
7 - Miller
8 - James Johnson
9 - Tim Thomas
10 - Taj Gibson
11 - Aaron Gray
12 - Jerome James

They lost a good amount of depth at the trade deadline. I don't see Iverson happening.

Well, one thing that's clear is that they'll need to balance out their bench. Hinrich is the only guard out of that group, and most of them can't play smaller than PF. I doubt that Aaron Gray and Jerome James both dress in the opener next year.